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* This location may not be accurate. More research is needed. (See [[Flossenbürg-Hertine#Outstanding_questions|Outstanding questions]] )
* This location may not be accurate. More research is needed. (See [[Flossenbürg-Hertine#Outstanding_questions|Outstanding questions]] )


[https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/GPS GPS]<ref>reference</ref>
[https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/50.607203/13.887368 50.607203/13.887368]<ref>https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html</ref>


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* Street Address: [[]]
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= Outstanding questions =
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* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html showcases the location to be near the current chemical factory. More research is needed.
* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the water from a factory, on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], but the place does not seem to be a square.  
* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, to the east of the chemical factory and across the Bilina river: [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty] and on the other side of the chemical factory [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6067675,13.8835382,3a,77.5y,81.74h,92.15t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1swo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-2.1511923740469143%26panoid%3Dwo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg%26yaw%3D81.73641801941208!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D more fence poles from the nazi era]. The same here, behind some residential buildings [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6092054,13.8838479,3a,15y,76.97h,90.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDJfK4tl9-lcWqGZN2akGCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.6879384815508303%26panoid%3DDJfK4tl9-lcWqGZN2akGCg%26yaw%3D76.97024986871624!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D northeast of the factory area].
* There are several small bunkers on openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.
* There are several small bunkers in the woods here, see openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.
* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.
* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.


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* https://www.oorlogsbronnen.nl/thema/Hertine
* https://www.oorlogsbronnen.nl/thema/Hertine
* https://www.oorlogsbronnen.nl/bronnen?term=hertine
* https://www.oorlogsbronnen.nl/bronnen?term=hertine
* https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html


== Custodians ==
== Custodians ==

Latest revision as of 08:00, 2 January 2025

Names

Type

Dates

(YYYY-MM-DD)

  • Opened: 1944-10-10
  • Closed: 1945-04

List of (known) subcamps, internal and external work details

Internal work details (Kommando)

External work details (Aussenkommando)

  • A small prisoner detachment did agricultural work[4]

Subcamps (Aussenlager)

Locations

Camp location

50.607203/13.887368[5]

geo:50.607203,13.887368 (link for navigation systems)

  • Street Address: [[]]
  • District: [[]]
  • Town: [[]]
  • State: [[]]
  • Country: [[]]

Organisations involved

Victims and Survivors

Population information

Names of victims

Names of survivors

Location of graves

Staff

This camp was run by the SS-WVHA

Names of perpetrators and any other people involved

Current status

Status of the site

Accessibility

Memorials

No memorial known at this time.

Description

Outstanding questions

  • The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html showcases the location to be near the current chemical factory. More research is needed.
  • Old, high fenceposts with bent top, to the east of the chemical factory and across the Bilina river: Google streetview near Velvěty and on the other side of the chemical factory more fence poles from the nazi era. The same here, behind some residential buildings northeast of the factory area.
  • There are several small bunkers in the woods here, see openstreetmap: 1, 2 (see ropiky.net for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.
  • USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from Flossenbürg-Chemnitz were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.

Resources

Bibliography

Links

Custodians


Sources

  1. ↑ United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia Volume I: part A page 611
  2. ↑ Das Nationalsozialistische Lagersystem, (CCP), page 43
  3. ↑ Das Nationalsozialistische Lagersystem, (CCP), page 43
  4. ↑ United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia Volume I: part A page 611
  5. ↑ https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html
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