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Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

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Outstanding questions

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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html showcases the location to be near the current chemical factory. More research is needed.
	* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, to the east of the chemical factory and across the Bilina river: [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty] and on the other side of the chemical factory [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6067675,13.8835382,3a,77.5y,81.74h,92.15t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1swo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-2.1511923740469143%26panoid%3Dwo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg%26yaw%3D81.73641801941208!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D more fence poles from the nazi era]. The same here, behind some residential buildings [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6092054,13.8838479,3a,15y,76.97h,90.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDJfK4tl9-lcWqGZN2akGCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.6879384815508303%26panoid%3DDJfK4tl9-lcWqGZN2akGCg%26yaw%3D76.97024986871624!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D northeast of the factory area].		* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, to the east of the chemical factory and across the Bilina river: [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty] and on the other side of the chemical factory [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6067675,13.8835382,3a,77.5y,81.74h,92.15t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1swo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-2.1511923740469143%26panoid%3Dwo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg%26yaw%3D81.73641801941208!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D more fence poles from the nazi era]. The same here, behind some residential buildings [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6092054,13.8838479,3a,15y,76.97h,90.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDJfK4tl9-lcWqGZN2akGCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.6879384815508303%26panoid%3DDJfK4tl9-lcWqGZN2akGCg%26yaw%3D76.97024986871624!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D northeast of the factory area].
	* There are several small bunkers in the woods here, see openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.		* There are several small bunkers in the woods here, see openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.

Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2025-01-02T06:20:01Z

Outstanding questions

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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
	* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, to the east of the chemical factory and across the Bilina river: [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty] and on the other side of the chemical factory [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6067675,13.8835382,3a,77.5y,81.74h,92.15t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1swo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-2.1511923740469143%26panoid%3Dwo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg%26yaw%3D81.73641801941208!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D more fence poles from the nazi era].		* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, to the east of the chemical factory and across the Bilina river: [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty] and on the other side of the chemical factory [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6067675,13.8835382,3a,77.5y,81.74h,92.15t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1swo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-2.1511923740469143%26panoid%3Dwo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg%26yaw%3D81.73641801941208!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D more fence poles from the nazi era]. The same here, behind some residential buildings [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6092054,13.8838479,3a,15y,76.97h,90.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDJfK4tl9-lcWqGZN2akGCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.6879384815508303%26panoid%3DDJfK4tl9-lcWqGZN2akGCg%26yaw%3D76.97024986871624!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D northeast of the factory area].
	* There are several small bunkers in the woods here, see openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.		* There are several small bunkers in the woods here, see openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.
	* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.		* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.

Davi at 06:18, 2 January 2025

2025-01-02T06:18:43Z

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	* This location may not be accurate. More research is needed. (See [[Flossenbürg-Hertine#Outstanding_questions\|Outstanding questions]] )		* This location may not be accurate. More research is needed. (See [[Flossenbürg-Hertine#Outstanding_questions\|Outstanding questions]] )

	[https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/~~GPS GPS~~]<ref>https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html</ref>		[https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/50.607203/13.887368 50.607203/13.887368]<ref>https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html</ref>

	geo: (link for navigation systems)		geo:50.607203,13.887368 (link for navigation systems)

	* Street Address: [[]]		* Street Address: [[]]
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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
	* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the ~~water from a factory, on~~ [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty],		* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, to the east of the chemical factory and across the Bilina river: [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty] and on the other side of the chemical factory [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6067675,13.8835382,3a,77.5y,81.74h,92.15t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1swo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-2.1511923740469143%26panoid%3Dwo0rShFw6t4CTzKmWtI-Fg%26yaw%3D81.73641801941208!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D more fence poles from the nazi era].
	* There are several small bunkers on openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.		* There are several small bunkers in the woods here, see openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.
	* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.		* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.

Davi at 20:08, 1 January 2025

2025-01-01T20:08:01Z

Davi: /* This camp was run by the SS-WVHA/Gestapo/Wehrmacht/DAF/OT */

2025-01-01T19:43:16Z

This camp was run by the SS-WVHA/Gestapo/Wehrmacht/DAF/OT

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	= Staff =		= Staff =
	== This camp was run by the [[:Category:SS-WVHA\|SS-WVHA]]~~/Gestapo/Wehrmacht/DAF/OT~~ ==		== This camp was run by the [[:Category:SS-WVHA\|SS-WVHA]] ==

	== Names of perpetrators and any other people involved ==		== Names of perpetrators and any other people involved ==

Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2025-01-01T19:39:48Z

Outstanding questions

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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
	* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the water from a factory, on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], but the place does not seem to be a square.		* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the water from a factory, on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], but the place does not seem to be a square.
	* There are several small bunkers on openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.		* There are several small bunkers on openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.
	* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.		* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.

Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2025-01-01T19:38:57Z

Outstanding questions

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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
	* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the water from a factory, on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], but the place does not seem to be a square.		* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the water from a factory, on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], but the place does not seem to be a square.
			* There are several small bunkers on openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.
	* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.		* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.

Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
	* Old, high fenceposts with bent top on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], but the place does not seem to be a square.		* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the water from a factory, on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], but the place does not seem to be a square.
	* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.		* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.

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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
	* Old, high fenceposts with bent top~~, near Velvěty,~~ on ~~Google streetview:~~ [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty]		* Old, high fenceposts with bent top on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], but the place does not seem to be a square.
	* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.		* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.

Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2025-01-01T19:22:04Z

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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
			* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, near Velvěty, on Google streetview: [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty]
	* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.		* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.

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	* This location may not be accurate. More research is needed. (See [[Flossenbürg-Hertine#Outstanding_questions\|Outstanding questions]] )		* This location may not be accurate. More research is needed. (See [[Flossenbürg-Hertine#Outstanding_questions\|Outstanding questions]] )

	[https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/GPS GPS]<ref>~~reference~~</ref>		[https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/GPS GPS]<ref>https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html</ref>

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	* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.		* The location that Flossenbürg memorial has seems to point to the center of Rtyně, while the text (USHMM Encyclopedia, Flossenbürg memorial) mentions the factory being in Velvěty and the camp as a square "in a forest close to the factory". More research is needed.
	* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the water from a factory, on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty], ~~but the place does not seem to be a square.~~		* Old, high fenceposts with bent top, across the water from a factory, on [https://www.google.com/maps/@50.6073258,13.8879029,3a,75y,308.44h,83.88t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q!2e0!5s20120201T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D6.121281514075093%26panoid%3DqG5d0bLFWpLYHJ-OOl7H9Q%26yaw%3D308.43993594868795!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Google streetview near Velvěty],
	* There are several small bunkers on openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.		* There are several small bunkers on openstreetmap: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.601402&lon=13.893596#map=19/50.601402/13.893596 1], [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?lat=50.600610&lon=13.885386#map=19/50.600610/13.885386 2] (see [https://ropiky.net/dbase_objekt.php?id=1096630326 ropiky.net] for more info) in the Velvěty area. It's not sure this is connected.
	* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.		* USHMM mentions that after the evacuation in April 1945, prisoners from [[Flossenbürg-Chemnitz]] were forced to work in the factory until liberation on March 8, 1945. Unfortunately there is no more information in that text and why this is not considered to be a continuation of the Hertine camp. More research would be good.
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	* https://www.oorlogsbronnen.nl/thema/Hertine		* https://www.oorlogsbronnen.nl/thema/Hertine
	* https://www.oorlogsbronnen.nl/bronnen?term=hertine		* https://www.oorlogsbronnen.nl/bronnen?term=hertine
			* https://teplicky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/lagr-rtyne-velvety-20220329.html

	== Custodians ==		== Custodians ==