Flossenbürg-Dresden (SS-Pionier-Kaserne) - Revision history

Davi at 06:36, 2 September 2025

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	* https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2		* https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2
			* https://asso-flossenburg.com/kommando/dresden/
	* https://www.gedenkplaetze.info/konzentrationslager/aussenlager-hellerhofss-pionier-kaserne		* https://www.gedenkplaetze.info/konzentrationslager/aussenlager-hellerhofss-pionier-kaserne

Davi at 16:29, 23 August 2025

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	* Dresden (SS-Pionier-Kaserne)<ref>[[United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia]] I-A page 580</ref>		* Dresden (SS-Pionier-Kaserne)<ref>[[Books#Der Ort des Terrors\|Der Ort des Terrors]], Band 4, page 188</ref><ref>[[United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia]] I-A page 580</ref>
	* Dresden, in the Pionier-Kaserne<ref>[[Das Nationalsozialistische Lagersystem]], (CCP), page 238</ref>		* Dresden, in the Pionier-Kaserne<ref>[[Das Nationalsozialistische Lagersystem]], (CCP), page 238</ref>
	* Dresden, Bauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei<ref>[[Verzeichnis der Haftstätten unter dem Reichsführer-SS 1933-1945]], page 101</ref>		* Dresden, Bauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei<ref>[[Verzeichnis der Haftstätten unter dem Reichsführer-SS 1933-1945]], page 101</ref>
			* Dresden-N23<ref>[[Books#Die_nationalsozialistischen_Lager\|Die nationalsozialistischen Lager]], page 193</ref>

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Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2024-12-08T16:02:15Z

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	* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, that address is called Weinbergstraße 54 (current day Hellerhofstrasse) on this old map~~. The Döbelnerstraße exists in this old map, including the small castle on number 54, so it's unlikely that it is a simple address change from after 1945 like in some other places~~.		* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, that address is called Weinbergstraße 54 (current day Hellerhofstrasse) on this old map.
	Probably the seat of the Bauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei was at Döbelnerstraße 54, the Kaserne was at Hellerhofstrasse and other external work details also existed (Neuhirschstein and Seifhennersdorf). Would be good to have a clear description of this, some more research is welcome.		Probably the seat of the Bauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei was at Döbelnerstraße 54, the Kaserne was at Hellerhofstrasse and other external work details also existed (Neuhirschstein and Seifhennersdorf). Would be good to have a clear description of this, some more research is welcome.

Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2024-12-08T15:56:49Z

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	* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, that address is called Weinbergstraße 54 (current day Hellerhofstrasse) on this old map. The Döbelnerstraße exists in this old map, including the small castle on number 54, so it's unlikely that it is a simple address change from after 1945 like in some other places.		* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, that address is called Weinbergstraße 54 (current day Hellerhofstrasse) on this old map. The Döbelnerstraße exists in this old map, including the small castle on number 54, so it's unlikely that it is a simple address change from after 1945 like in some other places.
	Probably the seat of the Bauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei was at Döbelnerstraße 54 ~~and~~ the Kaserne was at Hellerhofstrasse and other external work details also existed (Neuhirschstein~~, among others~~). Would be good to have a clear description of this, some more research is welcome.		Probably the seat of the Bauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei was at Döbelnerstraße 54, the Kaserne was at Hellerhofstrasse and other external work details also existed (Neuhirschstein and Seifhennersdorf). Would be good to have a clear description of this, some more research is welcome.

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Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2024-12-08T15:42:03Z

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	* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, that address is called Weinbergstraße 54 (current day Hellerhofstrasse) on this old map. The Döbelnerstraße exists in this old map, including the small castle on number 54, so it's unlikely that it is a simple address change from after 1945 like in some other places.		* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, that address is called Weinbergstraße 54 (current day Hellerhofstrasse) on this old map. The Döbelnerstraße exists in this old map, including the small castle on number 54, so it's unlikely that it is a simple address change from after 1945 like in some other places.
	~~It would~~ be good to have this ~~discrepancy explained~~.		Probably the seat of the Bauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei was at Döbelnerstraße 54 and the Kaserne was at Hellerhofstrasse and other external work details also existed (Neuhirschstein, among others). Would be good to have a clear description of this, some more research is welcome.

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Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2024-12-07T18:55:19Z

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	* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, ~~the~~ address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.		* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, that address is called Weinbergstraße 54 (current day Hellerhofstrasse) on this old map. The Döbelnerstraße exists in this old map, including the small castle on number 54, so it's unlikely that it is a simple address change from after 1945 like in some other places.
			It would be good to have this discrepancy explained.

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Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2024-12-07T18:44:50Z

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	* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while ~~the~~ GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße. A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, the address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.		* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while Flossenbürg Concentration Camp Memorial's photos and GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße (https://www.gedenkstaette-flossenbuerg.de/en/history/satellite-camps/pottenstein-1-3-2-2). A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, the address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.

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2024-12-07T18:43:31Z

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	* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while the GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße. An map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, the address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.		* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while the GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße. A map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, the address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.

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2024-12-07T18:43:22Z

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	<!-- Any questions that need answering to improve the quality of this page -->		<!-- Any questions that need answering to improve the quality of this page -->
	* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while the GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße.		* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while the GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße. An map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, the address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.
	* An map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, the address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.

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Davi: /* Outstanding questions */

2024-12-07T18:43:10Z

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	<!-- Any questions that need answering to improve the quality of this page -->		<!-- Any questions that need answering to improve the quality of this page -->
	* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while the GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße.		* USHMM Encyclopedia, CCP and Verzeichnis der Haftstätten mention the address Döbelnerstraße 54 in Dresden, while the GPS coordinates point to Hellerhofstraße.
	An map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, the address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.		* An map from around 1911 (https://altesdresden.de/index.htm?get_haus=doeb054) shows these GPS coordinates to be around the Sächsisches Krüppelheim, the address is called Weinbergstraße 54 on this old map.

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